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john
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Posted - 31 Mar 2003 :  2:23:31 PM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
If the Harleys do not get up at the Southern Classic and you had some races offerred to you, what would you go for. Now I can see self interest when it comes now, but if we run a "if only" discusion lets see what different scheme we may come up with.
I have suggestted free Stout for sidecar riders but there has not ben much support, but a sidecar/ solo race would be good fun.
The single aim will be to attract both spectators and riders and not simply replace an existing class. A special combination, award, series etc are ok. Please go for it and grab the chance to participate.
 

 
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Posted - 31 Mar 2003 :  6:12:56 PM  

 
Well I'd either make the existing races longer by a few laps, or add extra races.

Another option that was used in Pommy grasstrack (so I'm told) is to have team relay races. Sounds like fun though I'm not eaxactly sure how you set it up.
 

 
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john
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Posted - 31 Mar 2003 :  9:37:51 PM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
We found at the Southern Classic last year that entrants could hardly walk when we ran 6 races per day for everybody. So new events may be the go. The relay system seems interesting, any idea on how it might work. Somebody dropped into today and talked about an event with mid 70's solos 2 stroke vs 4 stroke.
 

 
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john
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Posted - 01 Apr 2003 :  10:30:02 AM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
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This site details a sprint event within an English township. It would be gr8 if we could run something like this somewhere. Currently we do have Geelong sprints but another town may be suitable as well. Any ideas?
 

 
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acotrel
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Posted - 01 Apr 2003 :  6:23:38 PM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
The relay race idea has been discussed at Winton Motorcycle Club meetings - for moderns not historics.
The idea is to have a team of two or three bikes and riders who carry one velcro sash each (probably from different clubs). It's where the sash finishes which determines the winning team.
There are a few safety issues about changeover of riders and bikes in the pits and the need for radar guns and black flags to cope with dangerous characters.
 

 
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john
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Posted - 01 Apr 2003 :  10:28:34 PM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
I had a call from somebody and I mentioned the team relay idea, but they felt that the spirit of team collectiveness just did not exist in road racing whereas speedway and a long tradition of team work and thgus the idea may not get any support.
 

 
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acotrel
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Posted - 02 Apr 2003 :  4:28:31 PM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
Run a relay event on the basis of club teams, I suggest the whole sport will take on a new attitude. In about 1975 when Murray Nankervis ran the Laverton meeting, we had the chance to see the Italian teams in action, that is, if anybody noticed. The Paolo Pileri team I believe was running 125 Morbidellis, they were behaving like those gangsters, the push bike riders. Slipstreaming was the order of the day, with the guys each taking a turn to lead. There was another Italian team running 250 Yamahas and doing the same thing. It's never too late to learn from those guys. You never know, you might even get a faster ride out of it!
I suggest we shouldn't back away from a promising idea just because some idiot believes it's never been done, or just wouldn't work. Try it - what would it cost?
I seen a few team events over the years, including in 'production races', they can be VERY EXCITING!
 

 
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Posted - 02 Apr 2003 :  4:33:57 PM  Show Profile Send john a Private Message  

 
So lets get some concept written down. I reckon Sidecras vs Solos would be a good start. But seriously what about something where the team has to finsih as a group as in cycling?
 

 
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acotrel
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Posted - 03 Apr 2003 :  07:33:40 AM  Show Profile Send acotrel a Private Message  

 
The relay race concept is simple. All you do is accept entries from teams of three riders and up to three bikes total for each team. The first rider of each team is given the velcro sash, and lines up at the start. After the race has started a count is kept of the number of times the rider for the team passes the start with the sash. You can change riders and bikes, but it's where the sash is that's important. If you crash, you have to make your way back to the pits to hand over the sash to the next rider of your team. Only one team member is allowed to race at a time.
 

 
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