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David
Site Administrator
Australia
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 Posted - 10 Mar 2002 : 7:37:27 PM
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Below is an actual reply that I sent Gina and Ken Wilson
Gina & Ken,
Thanks for your comments in the guestbook, but I believe that people need to know what is going on.
I might be having a "public dummy spit", but I would not be having one if something that is put together for the benefit of users for free and they do not use this free service gives me the right to. The Classic Motorcycling Australia web site is a self help site, that relies on input from people like either both of you. And quite frankly this is not happening, so I have taken the view, if people can not help themselves, then why should I help and provide a free service that no one is using?
I also think that it is better to let people know that there is the potential that the site could close down due to the lack of support for the free service, which has to be better than going to a site, just to find it is no longer there. I have seen that to many times in the past, and hated it. I am sorry I upset Ken, but as far as I know in Australia there is no one organization called Classic Motorcycling Australia. This is why we called our site this. There are state organizations, but no national ones, and that is what we hoped to achieve, the resurgence of Classic Motorcycling in Australia. But no one wants to help with this which is quite a shame really.
Those are just my thoughts and thought that I would share them. I have spent over $6000.00 out of my pocket since we started You must be logged in to see this link. and had no support from anyone in the running costs, but do you see anyone else care about that? I think not. Don't get me wrong, I am all up for feedback, be it positive or negative. But at this stage, it is not looking good for You must be logged in to see this link. (Classic Motorcycling Australia) or the sport of Classic Motorcycling in Australia as there is no other help in Australia.
These comments will be posted on the web site.
Regards,
David Greening
Webmaster @ Classic Motorcycling Australia
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> Gina Wilson 3/10/2002 1:53:17 AM
> I am writing this because I think you should be a bit more careful about what you put on your newsletters.
> You might be in some kind of trouble, and not be getting much response from your members, but you
> need to remember that not everyone has a lot of time to sit on a computer and write things; indeed a lot
> of people are not even capable of doing that for one reason or another, especially men, who generally find
> it difficult to type if they are in a manual job. My husband got your newsletters about closing the site, and
> thought it meant that your whole organisation was about to fall apart, and he was very upset. He phoned
> some friends and told them, and I imagine now there must be quite a number of motorcyclists out there
> who think your group is stuffed, simply by word of mouth. There has got to be a better way of going about
> what you are trying to achieve. Most websites have the same problems, but just set about fixing them,
> without doing a public dummy spit.
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Allan
Site Moderator
National
599 Posts |
Posted - 10 Mar 2002 : 11:14:38 PM
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Well its takes some skirt to tell us men we can’t type when they are hands on typists. What a load of bull we can type send and receive Morse Code at 30wpm, do house work, shopping, even get up a good meal, satisfy a women and even ride motorcycles and this is all at 64 year young.
Oh not too good on spelling through 
Allan Greening |
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Former Member
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92 Posts |
Posted - 10 Mar 2002 : 11:36:54 PM
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Well don;t look at me I'm dyslexic .carnt put up a post without my spellmaster and even then still f**k up on the spelling .
Thrash to the max you power band crazy fools "two strokes rool" |
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 11 Mar 2002 : 07:33:00 AM
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David, I agree with your comments, I suggest our big bad bikie boy image is being reduced to one of weak wimps. I'm really surprised that guys who aren't afraid of falling of a bike at 160kph, seem to be afraid to put in their two cents worth in a discussion forum. Who's going to get offended by their comments? Who cares about classic motorcycling in Australia?
I'm sure the Victorian guys know classicmotorcycling.com exists, what's the story? The sport is in a big enough hole without this poor effort.
As you know I've got the Winton Motorcycle Club up and going. Do you think we should run an extra classic meeting at Winton? It's up to the riders, however if I don't see some more support on this forum, it doesn't look good!
So I am stating it loud and clear - if we don't get our act together, only moderns will run at WMC meetings. We need to get our act together by next August when the Winton calender is prepared. Let me know what you guys want to do next year, as far as racing at Winton is concerned
About men typing - what would happen to those guys who can't type, if they tried to run a modern superbike with a computer controlled engine management system - they'd be uncompetitive, perhaps they are already!!
Sorry about the 'public gripe', but the sport has been hopeless for years, ABOUT TIME WE CHANGED!!
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acotrel
Advanced Member
Victoria
2147 Posts |
Posted - 11 Mar 2002 : 07:40:30 AM
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I think I'll go and 'satisfy a women'
Alan Cotterell |
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Former Member
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Posted - 11 Mar 2002 : 09:20:39 AM
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ah........the dummy spit...
well, i'm not much of a fan of classicmotorcyling, actually i know f..k all about it to be honest....nothing wrong with bikes tho at all
david does a good job at this site - the amount of times i get to work and davids telling me about new stuff he's done for this site amazes me. he even looks after You must be logged in to see this link. for me - and thats bloody amazing for me!!!!!!!!!!!!
but although i don't know much about bikes......we share something similar. i'm part of the werribee and district collectable vehicle club........basically cars that are 25+ years and older ar eligible ect ect - i don't have an old car my fiance's old man has a HK Holden and a Citroen (yuck) and yeah well i turn up to the outings ect and put in my 2c and try to make the club work.
but i tell ya what it's not that easy. and why. well its simple.
the average age of the members in the car club is probably 50+ which makes it pretty lame for a 28yr old to rock up to these club meetings ect and try and bring on new ideas - the recent president we've got is really really good - he wants to make things happen and get new things on the go but its the members that shout him down and don't let him do jack ****.
the club has alot of potential - it could make some good money it has good ties into lots of things - council - old ppl homes, parties, outings, wineries ect - i tell ya there is not much this club ain't into but the thing letting it down are the people who are in it - they don't wanna move forward or do anything they just want things to remain the same and not go anywhere and surely so the club will fold in time, because the people in it albeit they say "sure we support the club" is bull**** they don't do jack **** we have some members who rock up once a year for the annual dinner!!!!!!! sure they pay their $30 sub each year and bloody get a newsletter every month (which costs $30 per member p/a) and they reckon they add value - bull****.
i setup a website for the club. its closed. why bother - no one bothered to even look at it from the club except the president and my fiance's old man coz i showed him it. i did it all for nothing, and for what - nothing.
david has done pretty much well the same here, he's done it for nothing, he enjoys what he does i see it every day at work and he's good at it - if classicmotorcycling closes it will be a bloody shame - not only for the sport but for someone who has put alot of effort into whats one hell of a good set of web content!!!!!!!
if people are destroying classic because of "word of mouth" - then they can bloody well encourage classic by "word of mouth" too.
my 2c.........keep up the good work david this site is one hell of a credit to you and the sport of classicmotorcycling!
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