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Geoffpgrant
Level 3 Member
South Australia
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 Posted - 26 Apr 2005 : 11:01:37 PM
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I agree with Alan. Let's get the bikes there. A quick show of hands at my club suggested there were quite a few solos and a green sidecar coming from SA. At the next meeting I will be raising the issue again with a view to encouraging as many competitors as possible.
Let's make it a good one.
Geoff
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Alan
Forum Moderator
Western Australia
353 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2005 : 8:29:13 PM
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Time for an update. I spoke today to Mick Damon who is the President of the promoting in Tasmania for this years titles.
He tells me that there is still one issue with the track which is to do with armco at the hairpin, he believes this will be resolved satisfactorily in the very near future to MAs satisfaction. He also told me that there is a meeting next Thursday to start winding up the organisation so that information can start flowing out to us. He needs contact details for each state to help him propmote the event, I have given him John Daly for Vic, Phil Baughan for SA myself for WA and he has been in contact with Dave Morgan NSW, there is a gap there for Qld and the NT so if anyone can help us with those details it will help us a lot.
I am emailing him with as much information as I can to try to get them under way without too many problems and am going to provide a list of questions that riders are going to want answered so again if you want to email me or list anything on here I will forward it to him, that way he wont get flooded with requests and will make it easier for them. Yes David I will make sure he knows about this website.
Its still happening so far so lets get the show on the road and help out as much as we can.
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Posted - 27 May 2005 : 12:07:49 AM
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
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Posted - 27 May 2005 : 07:28:45 AM
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Great stuff Alan.quote:
Originally posted by Alan
Yes David I will make sure he knows about this website.
I will PM you some contact details if you want to pass on my details?
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David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
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kavo
Level 2 Member
Queensland
38 Posts |
Posted - 27 May 2005 : 11:49:19 AM
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QLD (QEMSC) Contacts are as follows:
Brian Fleming (President) on (07) 3367 1690 or Bill Stephens (Secretary) on (07) 3202 7404. |
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Alan
Forum Moderator
Western Australia
353 Posts |
Posted - 27 May 2005 : 10:49:34 PM
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Thanks everyone. As things develop assuming of course that they do I will post any news on here so we all know what is happening.
Alan Sidecar 21 WA |
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keith campbell
Level 3 Member
Victoria
248 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jun 2005 : 1:59:29 PM
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 Thanks to Alan for updating us all as to what is going on. I e-mailed M.A. 10 days ago and to 31/05/05 still no reply to questions about the future of the meeting.
I look forward to seeing everyone in Tassie once all is done cheers Keith.
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
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Posted - 07 Jun 2005 : 10:33:06 PM
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I was advised today that all should be well soon with thsi event.
I was asurred the locals are keen to run the meeting and the differences between CAMS and MA have been resolved for improvements to the Symonds Plains circuit.
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John Daley Sidecar #68
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Alan
Forum Moderator
Western Australia
353 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jun 2005 : 9:32:52 PM
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John is that the official line from MA or from Tasmania. The reason I ask is that I spoke to Ross Martin yesterday afternoon and he didnt have any new information available. Mick Damon still owes me a reply to questions I put to him at the end of last week so I am not sure where they are at until he contacts me. I will email him again tonight.
Alan Sidecar 21 WA |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jun 2005 : 5:14:19 PM
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Received this today:quote:
Hello all,
Motorcycling Australia is pleased to advise that all issues regarding the Symmons Plains circuit in Tasmania have been resolved, and the 2005 Australian Historic Road Race Championship will proceed as scheduled at the said circuit from November 26-28.
In making the announcement, the CEO of MA, David White, wishes to thank Mr Dick Caplice from Motorsports Tasmania for his co-operation during the circuit licensing process.
Supplementary regulations for the historic championship are currently being prepared, and will be available by July 15.
Mark Fattore
Media Manager
Motorcycling Australia
147 Montague Street (PO Box 134)
South Melbourne, Vic 3205
Tel: +61 (0)3 9684 0503
Mobile: +61 (0)400 055 077
Want to be updated on all things motorcycling? Then subscribe to the MA newsletter at You must be logged in to see this link.
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David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
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Alan
Forum Moderator
Western Australia
353 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jun 2005 : 9:42:13 PM
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Thankfully the major obstacles have been overcome now its up to us the competitors to put our best foot forward and make sure this is a resounding sucess.
I have spoken to Mick Damon President of the promoting club and he has been made aware on numerous questions that will be asked of him and will be working towards contacting all clubs and individuals in the very near future with as much info as he can reasonably provide.
They are very excited at the prospect of hosting this event and assured me that we will be very impressed with the facilities at the track. A small club such as ours is sending at least 15 solos and two sidecars so lets see what the bigger states and clubs around can manage. In case you didnt realise it that was a bit of a challenge to you all to get organised.
Alan Sidecar 21 WA
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2005 : 07:30:00 AM
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Alan I feel it is a bit offensive to have you keep reminding us that we need a challenge to get organised, there is no evidence of that need at all.
I dont think those words are useful.
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John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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Alan
Forum Moderator
Western Australia
353 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2005 : 10:07:26 PM
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Sorry if I offend you John but if you study the entries from the last few National titles there has been a steady decline in entries and with the logistical problems of getting to and from Tasmania I was just trying to gee people up. There are a couple of positives with the meeting being held there one in particular being that no one would have been there before unless they had competed in what was then the ARRC so interest could be high as it was when we hosted our first Nationals in WA so I could in fact be worrying over nothing.Maybe on this website I am preaching to the converted and will tone down my comments in this area and only post information as I get it. I am pretty passionate about Historics and in my own way do all I can to get our members to travel to major events.
Hope that explains my position and maybe I will catch up with you at the meeting with MA soon.
Alan Sidecar 21 WA
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keith campbell
Level 3 Member
Victoria
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Posted - 15 Jun 2005 : 10:12:46 AM
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 As per David White's comments on this topic 16 Nov 2004 (page 1) when are M.A. going to make info available about this meeting????
It is about time.
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Posted - 15 Jun 2005 : 1:10:25 PM
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i reckon its time for a reality check, the most difficult titles to make happen still havn't got any reliable info, this is what we got so far,
1. ross martin & co telling us the titles will be in tassie but never at simmonds plains but at baskerville, now thats changed.
2. alan from wa telling us how hes telling tassie how to run things and how things will all be okay.
3. johnboy telling us how things will all be okay becoz other people are telling him.
4. all these people telling us things will all be okay but silence from tassie!!!!
well unless ma makes a super human effort at doing there job this years title will be run just how ron kikovic and the rest of the ma board and ross martin and co intended, and thats not to be run, so the ma will have effectively wrecked 2 years titles in a row, the please explain letters to govt and state govt people are getting longer.
mike damon from tassie is probably right in saying that simmonds plains will be up and running for bike racing soon but i dont think he means for the historic titles this year. if ross martin and co and mike damon and tassie know there will be no titles they should say so coz it could be very bad for them if its shown later that they knew all the time coz guys are already getting ready but we notice mike damon says nothing himself but uses other people to speak for him. i could be wrong, hope i am but i doubt it. i'm waiting to see how they all try to weasel out of it and try and find someone else to blame. trouble is peoples are getting smarter and harder to blame. |
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Alan
Forum Moderator
Western Australia
353 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jun 2005 : 7:14:01 PM
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Jayne I am not going to get into any arguments with you, this time around you can say and do what ever you like about people. I will correct you on one thing though, I am not telling Tasmania how to run their meeting, all I am doing is providing them with any help they ask for and of course giving my opinion if asked.
For everyones info I have talked to Mick Damon today and he assured me that this meeting will go ahead as publicised elsewhere on this site and on the MA website.
Maybe just maybe people should do some real checking before making negative statements on here about these issues. Mick Damons phone number is easy to find as he is at Shearwater Motorcycles, Shearwater, Tasmania. I found it so anyone else should be able to.
If this meeting isnt a success it will only be because not enough of us travel.
Have a nice day.
Alan Sidecar 21 WA |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2005 : 10:12:53 AM
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Listen up fellas, I have been wrong about requirements for supp. regs being available any more than 3 months prior to a National Titles. Rule 3.2.14 page 53
It would appear we have been pretty close to the required 3 months in the past.
The topic above mentions things will be in place by 15 July 2005 and maybe we should wait until then for the supp. regs. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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Alan
Forum Moderator
Western Australia
353 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jun 2005 : 10:53:42 PM
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John, I wasnt having a go at you at all I was really just commenting on people making negative comments about something they are not up to speed with. Last years Championships wasnt helped by a few of us including myself who made too many negative comments to often which I am trying to help avoid this year by keeping myself informed as best I can and passing on any information I gain to this site.
The situation with supp regs is that they are getting assistance from MA as you would expect and also have a copy of ours from 2003 plus a programme and entry forms etc. They are working on them but I doubt they will get final approval before July 15 as there are bound to be some issues to resolve first. If they get them right first time around they will be the first in living memory.
Alan Sidecar 21 WA |
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
999 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jul 2005 : 09:13:36 AM
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Hello,
I have just had an enquiry in to what the date is for this race and noticed something rather strage while trying to find the link directly to the confirmation from MA.
In the first link from David White (16th November 2004) it clearly states: You must be logged in to see this link.
But in the e-mail from Mark Fattore (20th April 2005), it confirms that: You must be logged in to see this link.
What was the go there? Are MA still unsure on what is going to happen with the Titles after it appears that David White was over ridden on his decission some 6 months later? Is David White starting to not have control over his staff at MA? These questions and more need to be answered. Strange if you ask me.
If it wasn't for the fact that I am trying to keep as many users/riders up to date as I possibly can, then this would of gone un-noticed and may not of been picked up. If there was any doubt in my mind that MA did not do what was best for the sport, well that just increased with these 2 e-mails I got from MA officially.
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David
Webmaster & Owner of Classic Motorcycling Australia
Quote: I thought I wanted a career, turns out I just wanted to be paid. |
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Alan
Forum Moderator
Western Australia
353 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jul 2005 : 6:04:39 PM
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David, You must have missed something somewhere along the way. It was always the intention to run at Baskerville because of the armco at Simmons Plains. Following lengthy discussions with the Tassie government etc the decision was made to hold the Championships at Symmons Plains. This is fact and I am sure has been published but cannot remember exactly where.
Alan Sidecar 21 WA |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jul 2005 : 10:48:44 AM
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My advise regarding the chnage from Baskerville to Symonds plains is simply that the Tassie Government agreed to sink $200,000 into Symonds Plains and not Baskerville.
Symonds Plains has all the facilities such as pit sheds etc which are missing at Baskerville.
Personally I would prefer Baskerville, but since the Government tipped the money for changes at Symonds thats where the Titles will be held. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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john
Forum Moderator
Victoria
3130 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jul 2005 : 10:51:36 AM
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My advise regarding the chnage from Baskerville to Symonds plains is simply that the Tassie Government agreed to sink $200,000 into Symonds Plains and not Baskerville.
Symonds Plains has all the facilities such as pit sheds etc which are missing at Baskerville.
Personally I would prefer Baskerville, but since the Government tipped the money for changes at Symonds thats where the Titles will be held. |
John Daley Sidecar #68
' there are those who do, those who dont do and those who undo. We must lampoon the latter." |
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Geoffpgrant
Level 3 Member
South Australia
204 Posts |
Posted - 01 Sep 2005 : 11:41:51 PM
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Hi Everyone,
Now that I am all organised, booked on the boat and all that stuff, I have begun to wonder how many other sidecars are venturing overseas to Tassie for the Titles?
It would be great to have some really good racing over there so why don't all those committed sidecar racers put a post on here to say you are going and that way we might encourage a few more to join us?
Geoff
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Alan
Forum Moderator
Western Australia
353 Posts |
Posted - 04 Sep 2005 : 09:57:46 AM
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Geoff,
To date we have one definate from WA and two possibles. Ralph Briotti is a starter as I was but I have had an operation on my shoulder and am now only a half chance, I do intend entereing in case I can make it. The other possible is Paul Pinfold who I would put as about a 40% chance. There is a lot of interest from the solos and we look like having to upgrade to a 40 foot container to fit every one in.
I hope there is the same level of interest from the other States, how about letting us know what is happening in your own home States guys so we all know.
Alan Sidecar 21 WA |
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Geoffpgrant
Level 3 Member
South Australia
204 Posts |
Posted - 11 Sep 2005 : 9:05:38 PM
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Hmmm it seems as though it is going to be a WA SA affair...
Where is everyone else?
Geoff
Sidecar #30 |
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keith campbell
Level 3 Member
Victoria
248 Posts |
Posted - 07 Nov 2005 : 11:46:50 AM
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Hope all is well for all concerned with the organising and paying of "Ransom" aboard the boat to Tassie.I have 5-6m vehicle =$100 each way. Now also having to attatch 3m trailer = extra $225 each way......
Does anyone have any details about a practice day on Thursday?
I have e-mailed couple of times to M/Tas and no response.
Have tried to ring Janine Van Manenberg on 03 6428 7077 but no answer or machine.
All has been very quiet on this forum for some time now.
I am looking forward to getting down there and hope many others are too????
See you there Keith Campbell
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David
Site Administrator
Australia
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keith campbell
Level 3 Member
Victoria
248 Posts |
Posted - 07 Nov 2005 : 12:51:04 PM
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Thanks for the reply. Will have to ring club president,will get his number tonight. Janine has heard a rumour about a practice day only.
Entries are going well apparently.
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Geoffpgrant
Level 3 Member
South Australia
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Posted - 07 Nov 2005 : 10:26:42 PM
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I can't remember who told me now but we are going down prepared to practice on Thursday so I hope it is happening.
Geoff
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